04:43:38 2000 63.253.69.62 [NEW USER] zig <> 04:43:55 2000 63.253.69.62 [LOGIN] zig 11:08:37 2000 213.47.16.181 [LOGIN] h 14:43:06 2000 195.194.131.2 [NEW USER] Tim14:43:19 2000 195.194.131.2 [LOGIN] Tim 17:24:34 2000 193.154.147.21 [LOGIN] andre 17:57:18 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 17:57:24 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hallo 17:57:29 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: huhu 18:02:51 2000 213.47.66.253 [NEW USER] chra 18:03:06 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 18:18:03 2000 195.186.220.98 [NEW USER] LittleGreenLemon 18:18:18 2000 195.186.220.98 [LOGIN] LittleGreenLemon 18:36:22 2000 193.154.147.21 [LOGIN] h 18:50:01 2000 193.154.147.21 [LOGIN] h 18:55:20 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 19:04:27 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 19:42:03 2000 195.152.219.13 [NEW USER] hh-rQ 19:42:16 2000 195.152.219.13 [LOGIN] hh-rQ 19:42:34 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hello 19:42:54 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: this is a very strange chat format .... is there IRC log-in details? 19:43:44 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: is there anyone from kunstradio around? 19:45:31 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: is there anyone from kunstradio around? 19:48:29 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hello chra - do you know if there is anyone around in vienna? 19:51:08 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: i have no idea - i am waiting for the discussion 19:51:43 2000 195.152.219.13 [LOGIN] hh-rQ 19:52:00 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: helptext 19:54:58 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: maybe something is happening a 8 pm 19:55:22 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: what time is it now? 19:55:37 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: isn't it 8pm now in vienna? 19:55:47 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: a few minutes to 8 19:56:25 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: that's what we call p¸nktlich (in time) 19:58:35 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: aha :) 19:59:31 2000 194.158.136.29 [LOGIN] bx 20:00:08 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: hi from vienna 20:00:39 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hi from london :) 20:00:53 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: tening to the stream now .... has it started there yet? 20:01:15 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: typo - i'm listening to the stream 20:01:16 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: it is going to start in a few minutes 20:01:29 2000 195.186.219.172 [LOGIN] LittleGreenLemon 20:01:30 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: ok. cool. are you at the radio cafe? 20:01:55 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: yea iam, threre are hectic preparations 20:01:56 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hello from Lausanne, Switzerland 20:02:21 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: greetings from london, lemon 20:02:50 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hello hh-rq! 20:03:15 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: i can imagine bx. big greetings to gordan + elizabeth 20:03:17 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Are you all listening to the radio now? 20:03:21 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: how many people are there in the radiocafe? 20:03:48 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: So far, it seems there are only 4 of us... 20:03:54 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: we are about to start now 20:04:26 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Well, it seems, from what I am hearing now, that it has already started.... 20:05:13 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: i guess the stream at the moment is the cd? 20:05:44 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes, I think it is...quite interesting so far... 20:05:49 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: bx - who is with you at the radio cafe? 20:05:54 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: you will have the chance to pose questions to the participants 20:06:16 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 20:06:40 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hello 20:07:07 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hello Fraustuhlbein! Where are you typing from? 20:07:10 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: here are gordan pauovic, veran matic, ivan ivaji, jasmin tesanovic from belgrade 20:07:27 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: and gerfrid stocker from Ars Electronica 20:07:44 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: who knows the cd? 20:07:52 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: plus all the Kunstradio folks and public 20:08:04 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hello little green lemon, iĄm in vienna 20:08:19 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: i think they still try to get the webcam to work 20:08:23 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: great :) please pass on my warm greetings to gordan (when he's free). 20:08:38 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: has the live stream started jet 20:09:43 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the stream is on but the discussion has not started yet 20:09:44 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 20:10:15 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hey, it is as if you guys all know each others! And you also seem to know personally those who participate to the radio show! 20:10:42 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: its a small world... 20:10:59 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: :) 20:11:18 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: i canĄt manage to start the stream, there is no link. 20:11:29 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes, it seems it is...thanks to the internet?... 20:11:33 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: its running for sure. 20:12:03 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: its linked from the site .... 20:12:30 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: which site? http://kunstradio.at/SPECIAL/OTHERVOICES/ 20:12:46 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: there is no link on that site 20:12:56 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: wow, gordan is doing a lovely job of the sound streaming. its sound great! 20:13:12 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: well that's where i connected to the stream from 20:13:38 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: try - http://kunstradio.at/SPECIAL/OTHERVOICES/other.ram 20:14:16 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: not found 20:14:28 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: The requested URL /SPECIAL/OTHERVOICES/other.ram was not found on this server. 20:14:31 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: sorrz, there is a problem with the strem, they restart the encoder now 20:14:48 2000 205.188.192.161 [LOGIN] Tim 20:15:09 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: well i can hear it .... bx, can you tell us what the pnm:// address is? 20:15:10 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: hey tim 20:15:20 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: they are just intro-ing the show now. 20:15:20 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: Hello 20:15:27 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hey tim. 20:15:31 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: ok i got it now 20:15:56 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: where are you, tim? 20:15:57 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: what crazy folk music is this 20:15:58 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: is it tim from syr 20:16:50 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: I'm in the UK. 20:17:11 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok, hi anyway 20:17:21 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: woops. sounds like we've lost the audio ... 20:17:24 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: And having problems because apparently the bandwiydth is insufficient or my CPU is too slow... 20:17:25 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hello Tim! 20:17:46 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok, steam is on, webcam is on 20:17:53 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: 'ey up Ariane. 20:17:57 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: what speed connection do you have? 20:17:57 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: not hearing anything at the moment 20:18:05 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: (Lancastrian greeting) 20:18:16 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: So, you came too!! Cool! 20:18:24 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: Probably 28.8 20:18:48 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hum...having trouble with your modem? 20:18:54 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: 28.8K .... hmmm it might not be possible for you to connect to the chat + the 28K audio stream at the same time. 20:19:00 2000 212.239.84.69 [NEW USER] witz 20:19:09 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I am also experiencing some interruptions in the stream! 20:19:16 2000 212.239.84.69 [LOGIN] witz 20:19:21 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: you might be able to connect to the stream if you close the chat .... 20:19:31 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hello witz 20:19:32 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: That is probably why I am having these little troubles as well! 20:19:44 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: -lemon - welcome to the wonderful world of real audio ;) 20:19:58 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: greetings witz 20:20:07 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: Doesn't it defeat the whole object of the chat though?! 20:20:37 2000 212.239.84.69 [MSG] witz: hi from italy 20:20:50 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: Yeah, mine is chopping all sorts of streams at the moment... 20:20:56 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: it depends what ypou want to do tim. if you are on a 28K line then that means that you can receive 28K worth of date at one time .... 20:20:56 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I know, I know hh-rQ! It is not new to me! I am just craving for the day when we'll have efficient machines that allow us to all connect without bumping into each others'connections! 20:21:00 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 20:21:04 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: greetings from vienna 20:21:32 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hello Witz! Where are you in Italy? 20:21:33 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: if the audio stream is 28K then it could take up all your vailable bandwidth leaving now room for the chat. 20:22:16 2000 205.188.192.161 [MSG] Tim: Well, it's not working very well anyway. So I think I'll chat. I'm due the CD anyway. 20:22:21 2000 212.239.84.69 [MSG] witz: actually in rome 20:22:41 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: is everyone still in mourning there witz? 20:22:44 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Lucky you Witz!! 20:23:28 2000 212.239.84.69 [MSG] witz: i'm surviving with klima. otherwise is the african death 20:23:31 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Tim, maybe you can get it through the radio (I mean, the normal old machine....) Anyway, right now, it is all in German! 20:23:36 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: bx - what time will the discussion begin? 20:24:02 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: right now or what 20:24:15 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Where is it on "ordinary" radio? 20:24:27 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh lord! They are mixing English and German! My brain is getting completely mixed! 20:24:36 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: ÷1 i suppose? 20:24:47 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: can't hear what they're saying .... 20:24:49 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Well, didn't you tell me over e-mail that you could get it through ORF? 20:24:57 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the discusion has just started 20:25:03 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Any chance of getting that over here? 20:25:08 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: –1 is a part of orf 20:25:11 2000 212.239.84.69 [MSG] witz: my brain os fine because i can't hear any .ra sound 20:25:25 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: not unless o1 is on shortwave, tim 20:25:40 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: it is not on air! 20:25:43 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Thought not. 20:25:53 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: i can hear everything fine now 20:26:00 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aaagh. 20:26:12 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh, too bad then! Well, stay on-line Tim! 20:26:16 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: you can follow through RA 20:26:41 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: is it working ok for you others? i'm not getting any auduo right now. 20:27:01 2000 212.239.84.69 [MSG] witz: there is, there is 20:27:01 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Read back, my line is too "thin". 20:27:30 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes, for me, right now it is working fine! I am surprised because I was afraid the line would be stuck with tousand of people checking their e-mail after the evening meal! 20:27:56 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: lol. 20:28:31 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: who is talking now 20:28:36 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: who is talking now 20:28:42 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: is this gerfreid speaking now? 20:29:15 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: this raimund loew, a ORF journalist and the the moderator 20:29:28 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: this must be the moderator 20:29:50 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: How exactly? 20:30:10 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: what how exactly 20:30:15 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: he introduces all the participants 20:30:15 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha. What should we be discussing? 20:30:45 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Nevermind. 20:30:47 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: *former* head of B292? really? ois veran not directing B292 now? 20:31:07 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: OK. Cool. 20:31:29 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I'll email it to you. 20:31:32 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: great lidja is translating for veran :) 20:32:07 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: this languahe stuff is great ... ;) srpski - deutch - english equation. 20:33:14 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 20:35:28 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: do you get the webcam? 20:36:01 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Nope. 20:36:38 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: great sound though bx :) 20:36:53 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok, great! 20:37:18 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hey, I just got it but it is a view of the outside street! 20:37:21 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the web cam is behaving erratically... 20:37:35 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: what's on the webcam bx? 20:37:46 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: haha. 20:38:39 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Well, the it looks like the weather is nice over there! 20:39:59 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: this is not the webcam that shoull show the discussion, i think 20:40:24 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hey! Don't leave! 20:40:47 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: huhu 20:41:58 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: does the webcam function now 20:42:28 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: i think so 20:42:28 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Not that much, actually! We still only get views of the street.... 20:43:28 2000 205.188.192.168 [LOGIN] Tim 20:43:52 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: from whom is this comment 20:44:03 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hey Tim! Have you been able to listen to the stream a bit? 20:44:23 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: 20:44:29 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Nope, not at all. Even with everything else closed. 20:44:45 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Which is why I logged out. 20:45:00 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Damn! It seems that you will need another modem.... 20:45:03 2000 212.186.8.139 [NEW USER] gedder 20:45:08 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: can you get the webcam 20:45:17 2000 212.186.8.139 [LOGIN] gedder 20:45:22 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: turbo 20:45:30 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Can someone just keep us up to tabs with what is going on? 20:45:31 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: turbowebcam 20:45:49 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hi gedder! Where are typing from? 20:45:56 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: someone is explaining b92 20:45:59 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: who is speaking now? 20:46:05 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: or was explaining 20:46:09 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Believe it or not, I think that a large part is the presentation of the CD anyhow. 20:46:32 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Some German journalist, it seems.... 20:46:49 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: i think at the moment we are listening to a short extract of the cd, which is an essay written by veran matic. 20:46:52 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: what you hear is part of the original radio show 20:47:05 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: a german translator is reading his text. 20:47:06 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: can you understand german littlegreen 20:47:22 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: an essay bz veran matic (in german) 20:47:27 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha. The AEC bloke? 20:47:37 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: no 20:47:45 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the essay should be online somewhere (in english) on the oroiginal other voices site. check the kunstradio web archive 20:47:47 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: thanx 20:47:48 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: thanx 20:47:51 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes, it seems indeed that he is explaining what B92 is and what it has been doing so far....My German is really bad!!! I desperately need to go back to Germany and relearn the language.... 20:47:56 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: reduce smoking 20:48:34 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes, they are back to English! 20:48:41 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the essay is about the commander solo aircraft NATO used during the bombing. 20:48:53 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: we're back to english 20:49:04 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh ok! It makes sense with the bits I could understand! 20:49:15 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: yes, ja, si 20:49:24 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Yay! I wish I could hear it... :o( 20:49:38 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: who is talking now 20:50:03 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: jasmina 20:50:08 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: too bad, what isp do you use? 20:50:18 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: writer + diarist from belgrade 20:50:21 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I think it is Jasmina Tesanovic 20:50:27 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: what diary is she talking about 20:50:41 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: her diary that she wrote during the war. 20:50:44 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: AOL, myself. 20:51:03 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: where has it been published 20:51:10 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Yeah, I saw that on the website earlier. 20:51:22 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: she is a _great_ writer. 20:51:30 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: i donĄt like my computer either 20:51:30 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: She is talking about the choice of fleeing away or staying in Belgrade and also about the fact that the war interrupted everything she was doing.... 20:51:54 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: think there are extracts published on the original 'other voices' site. check kunstradio web archives. 20:52:03 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Net congestion... 20:52:44 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: there are extract on the KuRa site and on ANEM 20:53:00 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: any urls bx? 20:53:06 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: She is talking about the fact that writing was some kind of a therapy to help her survive mentally during the bombing.... 20:53:23 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: are currently in the radio cafe, bx? 20:54:08 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: http://kunstradio.at/WAR/DIARY/index.html 20:54:08 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: wow her diary was translated into arabic! 20:54:20 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: thanks :) 20:54:24 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: yes i am 20:54:34 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Apparently, her diary got published on the internet in several languages, without her knowing at first.... 20:55:08 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Excuse me for pointing this out, but surely the purpose of this chatroom is to feed into the discussions going on "live" 20:55:25 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: the webcam is kind of strange, you canĄt see the discussion but some excerpst of some videos 20:55:30 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: i think that Q + A will come after, tim 20:55:38 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Or has the opportunity not arisen yet? 20:55:53 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: yes you can feed into the discussion, go ahead 20:55:57 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha. Cool. 20:56:08 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: All I get on the webcam is images of the traffic outside the cafe!! 20:56:13 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: who is q+a 20:56:20 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the web cam is still f**** 20:56:25 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I can't hear it! I was talking generally. 20:56:44 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: althougt it is the webcam turbo it 20:56:53 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Question and Answer. 20:56:54 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: No one, Fraustuhlbein! Q= Question and A=Answer....Question and Answer session! 20:57:31 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: ah o.k 20:57:54 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: try 192.164.193.35:2015 for the camera 20:58:44 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Sorry, it doesn't work.... 20:58:51 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: are you the technician of this whole thing, bx? 20:59:20 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: i get it in a new window pointing to this ip address... 20:59:36 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: bx - shall we type in some questions, which the moderator can ask later? 20:59:42 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: no!! my goodness! 20:59:46 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: but there are still some odd videos, with subtitels which you canĄt read because of the resolution 21:00:06 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the no was about the tech! 21:00:29 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: if want to pose question you can do it now, or later 21:00:29 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: its probably a problem with the camera. they'll be mixing B92 documentary videoes i would guess. 21:01:02 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Ahaha....it still doesn''t work for me....on the other hand, thewebcam links work but I always get images from the street. 21:01:09 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: what language is he talking in 21:01:25 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: i would like to ask veran or gordan how OpenNet and Rex are doing now, since the closure of Studio B. Has there been an interruption to their service provision ability? 21:01:38 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Presumably we can discuss what is being said in the same ways as the audience can. 21:01:49 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: serbian 21:02:18 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: ok tim - let;s do it. 21:03:14 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Ok, you tel me what's going on and I'll discuss it. Because I can't hear it! 21:03:15 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 21:03:16 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 21:03:19 2000 212.186.8.139 [LOGIN] gedder 21:03:32 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: very confusing listening to serbian and the translation 21:03:45 2000 194.109.54.122 [NEW USER] rq-adam 21:03:56 2000 194.109.54.122 [LOGIN] rq-adam 21:04:02 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: Veran is talking about how the internet can be used in conjunction with other media (Am radio, fax Fm radio satellite) to transmit vital information to areas where censorship or tech_problems prevent open media expression. 21:04:08 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hi rq-adam 21:04:10 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: alo 21:04:18 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: hear veran? and lidija??? :) 21:04:30 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hi adam# 21:04:32 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Hello RQ-Adam, where are you beginning from? 21:04:36 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: lidija is translating fro veran :) 21:04:40 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hi rq-adam! Where are you? 21:04:47 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: i begin from .nl 21:04:53 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: that's exactly the point for this discussion 21:05:02 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: litle green lemon? 21:05:13 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hum, Netherland!! It is getting quite international! 21:05:24 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yes? 21:05:26 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: adam - the b292 broadcast is being re-transmitted everywhere in .yu (33 stations) except belgrade since studio b closure. 21:05:48 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: shall i put in de freq clock waag? 21:05:50 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: adam - can you listen? 21:06:01 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I mean, yes rq-adam? 21:06:01 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: DEFINITELY! 21:06:10 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: i will try do you have the pnm? 21:06:11 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: not mail radio 100? 21:06:32 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Do they think that they will always find a way to circumnavigate whatever posts are put in their way? They've done it well so far. 21:06:36 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: bx - can you tell kunstradio that the programme will be broadcast on FM in amsterdam in about 5 minutes :) 21:07:03 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok-cool! which station? 21:07:19 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: tim - they are astonishingly resourceful. 21:07:29 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the frequency clock Fm radio. 21:08:06 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh yes, we have been able to see that! The people at B2 92 have really been able to use the internet and other technologies in a really original way! 21:08:11 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I know. Gordan almost seemed more fussed about Red Star. :o) 21:08:16 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: veran thanks heidi for helping b92 being part of the world :-) 21:08:33 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: the moderator is a bit confused rigth now 21:09:25 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: What station in Amsterdam is picking it up... and do they have a cheaper feed? 21:09:35 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: webcam turbo is doing good now 21:09:44 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh god! I am chocking! My computer is overheating and I need to get out of my room for a little while! I'll be back in a few minutes! 21:09:52 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: don't have pnm adam - link from the fromt page to the ram file 21:10:50 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: OK. Go cool off. 21:10:52 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: Constitution in .yu changed today to allow milosovic to stay in power for a further 8 years. 21:11:06 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: unbelivable 21:11:28 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: That was the move to make the President directly elected? 21:11:32 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: well thats democracy for ya 21:11:42 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: what is the clock fm url? 21:11:55 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the president IS directly elected. always has been in .yu 21:12:08 2000 172.140.215.202 [NEW USER] SAND777777 21:12:10 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: http://www.radioqualia.va.com.au/freqclock 21:12:21 2000 172.140.215.202 [LOGIN] SAND777777 21:12:36 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the move was to ensure that its much more difficult for the yugoslav parliment to get rid of him. 21:12:44 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Can someone explain why making him directly elected would ensure his survival. Is tthis the Daskovic theory of mass electoral rigging? 21:12:44 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: www.klari.net/radioqualia 21:12:51 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ... 21:12:56 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: cheers 21:12:59 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: rq-adam -> :P 21:13:18 2000 172.140.215.202 [MSG] SAND777777: good afternoon.... wassup?? 21:13:31 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: good afternoon sand 21:13:43 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: tim - please see my earlier comment. the president IS directly elected in .yu 21:14:14 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: who is takling right now 21:14:22 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: i heard kleptokratie? what's that? 21:14:28 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Then what has changed, exactly? 21:14:38 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: where are you sand? 21:14:48 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ivan ivanji 21:14:56 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: the fact that now they don't need to ahve an election for a further 8 years, i would imagine. 21:14:59 2000 172.140.215.202 [MSG] SAND777777: I'm 40 miles west of Manhattan 21:15:12 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: ivan ivanji-author 21:15:19 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: cool. 21:15:33 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: saves the tax payer, elections are expensive... 21:15:47 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: ;-) 21:16:00 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: how's the waag FM going adam? 21:16:16 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: + are you listening to teh stream? 21:16:50 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: but he is talking in german 21:16:56 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: its on now (fm) 21:17:05 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: great :) 21:17:14 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: ouncement at the radio cafe :) 21:17:23 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: you listening? 21:17:38 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the announcement has been made already 21:17:57 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: does anyone here understand german? what is he saying? 21:18:15 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: bx - yep - chat cut my typing off. that's what i was trying to say ;) 21:18:23 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: he is welcoming everyone here this evening... 21:18:24 2000 172.140.215.202 [MSG] SAND777777: <--- just got stream going 21:18:25 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: a bit confusing serbian and croatian i think 21:18:42 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ...a small joke about the weather... 21:19:02 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: he ate noodle soup today 21:19:32 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ...but he hopes everyone enjoys their food anyway... 21:20:03 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: his son didnĄt want him to go belgrad or something 21:20:20 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: some genetic failure 21:20:39 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: finnaly i have the stream... 21:20:55 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: bibel - kain und abel- babel 21:20:56 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: bible is a good literature if you think of the tower of bable 21:21:08 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: just gottas put om some pasta... 21:21:14 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: somhow that doesnĄt makes sense 21:21:17 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: n) 21:21:30 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: what he is talking about i mean 21:21:31 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: (me, i mean) 21:21:49 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: not you you mean 21:22:06 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: her or him? 21:22:19 2000 195.152.219.13 [MSG] hh-rQ: adam - my dinner date (georgie) is here so i have to go. can you stay on and tell me how it goes? 21:22:49 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: he posed a rhetirical question how we react to what we get through mass media 21:23:14 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: i hvae to go to :-( 21:23:32 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: if we get influenced by this at all 21:23:36 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: everybody leaves? 21:23:37 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: See ya. 21:23:44 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: bye 21:23:54 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: (Adreesed to Adam, not myself) 21:23:56 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: bye 21:24:01 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: buon apetit 21:24:18 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: back later 21:24:33 2000 172.140.215.202 [MSG] SAND777777: well, I'm gonna go too... I guess I've been here long enough for Echelon to see... :) 21:25:04 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: definitely! 21:25:28 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: What or who is Echelon? 21:26:25 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: an intelligence network, US, UK, AU, NZ 21:26:56 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: they monitor traffic on the web and filter for sensitive information 21:27:58 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha, I remember the name now. 21:28:38 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: Gordan talks about RA and MP3 streams 21:28:45 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: and it remebers yours...;-) 21:29:09 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: they have 200 simultaneous mp3 listeners and 600 RA 21:29:14 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: yay gordan!!!!!!!! 21:29:30 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Where is this on MP3? 21:29:56 2000 194.158.136.29 [LOGIN] h 21:30:08 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Or are they discussing Free B92, even that won't work on this flipping computer. 21:30:14 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: he was talking about b(free)92 21:30:44 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: now its Gerfried Stocker from AEC 21:31:24 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: hi h 21:31:56 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] h: hi 21:33:33 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: hi h 21:33:51 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Where are you H? 21:34:05 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: he talks about how incredible the radio documents is, he pointed out that is an artists work 21:34:37 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] h: this discussion will be archived http://kunstradio.at/SPECIAL/OTHERVOICES 21:34:49 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: vs. the "official" media 21:34:59 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Cool. 21:35:16 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: gerfrieds english sounds aaaaahhhh...... 21:35:39 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: he is from styria... 21:35:48 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] h: in vienna in the radiocafe 21:36:00 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] h: sowieso 21:37:01 2000 213.47.66.253 [MSG] chra: he is from linz - the f¸hrerstadt 21:37:34 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: this is great 21:37:38 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: how does this refelct in his english pronounciation?? 21:37:47 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha, I thought you must know each other. 21:38:22 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: Raimund Loew describes how he experienced the yu war in china 21:38:24 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I wish I could hear it (end of moan) 21:38:46 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: great 21:38:54 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I wish I could hear it (end of moan) 21:38:59 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: how the chinese went to the internet cafes and checked what was going on 21:40:39 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: loew: cencorship is dead, long live manipulation 21:41:00 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: lol. 21:41:03 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: open channels...? 21:41:46 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: are there any questions for the discussion out there? 21:42:27 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Do they think there will ever be a time when freedom of speech will be universal? 21:42:37 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: yes...what about open channels for kosova...that was a line to the region and not about belgrade...or radio21...? 21:44:28 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: what do you mean with kosova? 21:45:01 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: "open channels for kosova" was a streaming media initiative that kept reports open from kosova 21:45:30 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok 21:45:46 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ...but its ok...it missed the time to ask... 21:46:28 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: sorry, I have no direct input here 21:47:08 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: if there are question not directly related to what they say in this very second i can throw them in later 21:47:43 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Hmmm. I think that kinda negates the purpose of advertising "live chatting to allow contribution from the network" or words to that effect. 21:48:45 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: no, but there is are some practical issues here 21:49:24 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: multitasking bx 21:49:37 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: say hello to gordan from me though 21:50:07 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: yip, i can ask him to get onto the chat 21:50:08 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: True. OK. 21:50:41 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: and say hi to lidja too! 21:50:53 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: say hi to everybody 21:50:58 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ok, i will 21:53:58 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: ahh, finally i got a beer! 21:54:17 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Priorities, obviously :o) 21:54:21 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: wow lucky you !, bx 21:55:20 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: there is the internet, and there something beyond... 21:55:36 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: thats right 21:56:05 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: now its the strange english accent again 21:57:09 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: seriou faces in the audience. 21:57:20 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: serious 21:57:34 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: serious issues... 21:57:53 2000 195.186.219.172 [LOGIN] LittleGreenLemon 21:58:07 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh Lord! 21:58:16 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I fell asleep! 21:58:19 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: the discussion in over now, i try to bring gordan here... 21:58:24 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: ok then iĄm going to get a beer too 21:59:06 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: bye folks, c u 21:59:07 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Had a really weird day! 21:59:19 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: are you trying to say in isn't exciting? 21:59:24 2000 62.116.66.34 [MSG] fraustuhlbein: perhaps at superchannel chat 21:59:31 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh man! I missed the whole thing! I am really angry at myself! 21:59:32 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: that was great! 22:00:01 2000 195.121.181.189 [NEW USER] jalmu 22:00:08 2000 62.116.66.34 [LOGIN] fraustuhlbein 22:00:34 2000 195.121.181.189 [LOGIN] jalmu 22:00:39 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Only like me... 22:01:09 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: (I missed it all, not "I'm great". :o) 22:02:04 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: hectic again here 22:02:39 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: but there is a chance to get the participants online 22:02:46 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Yeah, these damn allergies are killing me! 22:03:12 2000 205.188.192.168 [LOGIN] Tim 22:03:18 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hi Jalmu! 22:03:30 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: cool 22:04:40 2000 213.47.66.253 [LOGIN] chra 22:05:17 2000 205.188.192.168 [LOGIN] Tim 22:06:22 2000 194.158.136.29 [NEW USER] MINA 22:06:56 2000 194.158.136.29 [LOGIN] MINA 22:07:35 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: hi Mina 22:07:47 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hi Mina! Where are you typing from? 22:08:18 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hey Tim! Did anything happened on the chat while I was away? 22:08:22 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: HI YOU 22:09:15 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: We have Jasmina Tesanovic online now 22:09:40 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: she is the lady with the diary 22:10:05 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: i enjoyed the diary very much 22:10:14 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: reading of it was very powerful 22:10:17 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: WHY 22:10:28 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: lidja did an amazing job 22:10:30 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Aha. That'd be "MINA" presumably. 22:10:30 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Really? But she doesn't appear on the chat, does she? 22:10:44 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Or is she Mina? 22:10:44 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] bx: press reload 22:10:59 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Oh ok! Got it! 22:11:07 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: MAYBE YOUR REDAING WAS POWERFUL 22:11:21 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: her reading was powerful 22:11:36 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: but the words, written, were powerful too 22:12:10 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Hum, I haven't been able to read it....I have to find it on the Kunstradio website.... 22:12:18 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: I MEANT THE STRONG FEELINGS YOU HAD ABOUT THE WAR WERE SO POWERFUL THAT THEY MADE THE DIARY POWERFUL; IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO READ A BOOK THAN TO WRITE ONE 22:12:19 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I think I get your point, your perception is almost as powerful as the original words. I guess diaries are useful emotional catalysts like that. 22:12:56 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: well, i am not so emotional by nature and it takes a lot to move me 22:12:59 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: PITY WRITERS NEED A WAR TO BECOME WRITERS BUT ALL PEOPLE AFTER ALL ARE WRITERS 22:13:42 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: but the reading put a chill down my spine 22:14:19 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: it was very moving 22:14:27 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: TRY WRITING ABOUT IT IT MAY PUT CHILL ON SOMEBODY ELSESSPINE 22:14:53 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: no i dont think so, the ability to write is not as easy as you say 22:15:23 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: and the entire radio piece was extremely well done and strong 22:15:35 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: I THOUGHT SO TOO UNTIL RECENTLY 22:15:49 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: why 22:16:00 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: I think it can be. I write from instinct so I cxan understand the point. The skill is natural. 22:16:34 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: BECAUSE I didn t have much to say but the war and the rubbish people said about it made my writing important 22:17:33 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: who cares if it is important or not...it was good writing regardless, its not what others have said about your writing...i heard the radio play when it was made and i almost cried 22:18:12 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: i was not influenced by what others said about it 22:18:42 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: This whole culture which Free B92 exists in is about not conforming, so why does it matter what other people think about it? 22:18:43 2000 194.158.136.29 [MSG] MINA: NO I MEAN WHEN YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING IT BECOMES IMPORTANT NECESSARY TO YOURSELF AND THEN AS ANY OTHER SURVIVAL INSTINC OR ARTISTIC YOU JUST DO IT OR YOU DO IT WELL 22:19:45 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Having not heard or read it, I can't comment about whether you do it well. 22:20:09 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: but it is important to hear survival as much as it is important to hear art 22:20:27 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: more so, because we hear less of it 22:21:28 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Well, I have enjoyed this experience of listening to stream radio and chatting with people at the same time, but I can hardly read what is on my screen, so I think I have to go to bed. It is a shame as your discussions are really interesting, but my eyes are closing down and I cann't keep them opened anymore. 22:22:02 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ok...good night 22:23:41 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Ok Tim! Take care and enjoye the chat! Thank to all of those who made this event possible! It was really interesting! 22:24:06 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: I hope there will be more of that kind of events! 22:24:21 2000 195.186.219.172 [MSG] LittleGreenLemon: Bye! Good night! 22:25:10 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: Do you reckon Gordan'll be poking his head round the door? 22:25:52 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: hope so 22:28:20 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: If he's not then I'll buzz. But if he is then I may hang around. 22:33:17 2000 205.188.192.168 [MSG] Tim: See you. I've gotta get off before the pjone bill explodes. If Gordan turns up, give him my regards. 22:33:43 2000 194.109.54.122 [MSG] rq-adam: ok